Subject: More song and dance from Peter
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:16:12 +0100
From: Sune Nordwall <...@home.se>
To: Peter Staudenmaier <pstaud@hotmail.com>, Dan Dugan <dan@dandugan.com>
CC:  ...

I see that you like that people talk about you.

On the WC:


-Hi critics,

since Tarjei is no longer here to channel Sune Nordwall for us, I thought some of you might be interested in what Sune has been up to recently. You can find his latest ruminations on PLANS etc. at:

http://hem.passagen.se/thebee/comments/two-mythologies.htm

It has lots of fun stuff about me, Dan, and other waldorf-critics list members. I must say I get the distinct impression that our Swedish friend has definitively fallen off his rocker this time; he really does believe, just to pick one example, that I invented Steiner's lectures on "national souls". The shame of it is that Sune used to be both sane and comparatively informed about anthroposophist doctrine; evidently the strain of defending that doctrine became too much for him. Happy reading,

Peter S.


You clearly like to play 'scholar' for some reason and seemingly have found an admiring audience in a number of critics on the WC-list, who love you for your beautiful verbal feathers.

Actual historians give specific Author/s, Title, Publication, Page/s, Volume/Year, Publisher, documenting the sources they describe and quote or paraphrase.

So far, the only 'specific' source you for two years have given about the 'lecture' that you make up and forge a 'paraphrase' of as 'explanatory' foundation stone of all your your further writings on anthrop. - and have continued to make up ever new stories about - are lots of 'reading of journals', naming two.

But I see that you can't give up on making up ever new untrue stories in everything you write that I have read so far:

You write:

'our Swedish friend' ... 'really does believe' ... 'that I invented Steiner's lectures on "national souls".

You really never give up lying to and on people, even straight up into the face, smiling, do you, Peter.

I have never said, nor believed that Steiner did not hold the lectures in Oslo, later published as 'Mission of Folk Souls', that I have scanned and put up at my site.

The black hole over which you are hovering  - as far as your credibility as 'historical scholar' on anything is concerned, only held up by thin threads from some people's illusions about you - is very simple to describe and I have pointed to it several times.

You have stated and made into the foundation stone of all your further writings about anthroposophy, that Rudolf Steiner held a special lecture in 1910, a lecture that you make up and forge a description of and make into the basic 'explanation' of the rest of article, that is the starting point of your career as solo song and dance artist on anthroposophy, in passing making a Jew fleeing Nazi persecutions in Austria into a "German anthroposophist' 'fascinated' by Hitler's myths.

This lecture that you have asserted the existence of, since the first publication of your article 'Anthroposophy and Ecofascism' - and later have described with in your show: it was a separate lecture, not published and separate from the published lecture series but constituting the basis of the published lecture series and actually published in it in an 'edited' version as lecture 6 in the series - does not exist [Later clarification, meaning: as described by Staudenmaier.]

You have made it up. No documentation describes its existence, except what you make up about it in your article. It is very simple: It is a forgery.

Why not be honest, finally, for once, and tell the truth about it?

"I made it up, thinking it was real".

Then everybody will be happy and you can continue to do what you seem good at, making up stories, dancing and singing; 

'They call me, scholar, so versatiiiile, 
I make up stories, stories, both day and night.
If noone listens, it makes me sad, 
and wave my feathers, feathers, right in their eeeeyes'.

Try people without glasses, Peter.

From, what did you say; 'the bottom of insanity'?

The truth bugs, you, heh, that you build your rumour as 'historical scholar' on holding a fantasy to be true? Who is 'insane'?

Yours for singing and dancing.
Where it belongs.

Sune